Go to Our New Site
Weekly Torah Updates

Home    Forums  Hop To Forum Categories  Torah Forums  Hop To Forums  Daf Yomi    Advanced: bitul b'rov bechoros 21B

Read-Only Read-Only Topic
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
-star Rating Rate It!  Login/Join 
GY Teacher

Picture of Rav Chaim
Posted
StatementThe mishna says that if the mother gives "birth" to a lump of blood the next child is not a bechor. The gemorah says that it's not tumah for a nivaila sice it is butel b'rov in the blood.
QuestionThe steipler asks why then is the mother concidered to give birth to child, all the remains of the child should be considered non existance, since it is butel b'rov-(see over there what he answered)
AnswerIn my humble opinion, there are some actions that depend on the object your doing it to. For example, you can't eat without food, you can't swim without water and etc. Even if something is "batel", since physicaly the object is in existance, you can do an action to the object that will define that action. So, even though the child that was born does not halachicly exist, but since phisicly it exist, the mother can be considered giving birth (which is defined as to a child)
Proof If someone would mix on shabbos food that was not cooked into cooked food and put it on the fire , of course he'll be chayiv for m'vashel, even though the non cooked item was butel, still you are still cooking

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Rav Chaim,


____________

http://limudtorah.jewishweb.org

Please help the Global Yeshiva to continue spreading high quality Torah by sponsoring a Shiur
in the "Understanding Mishna Brurah" forum. All sponsorships are tax deductible.
 
Posts: 1819 | Location: Michigan | Registered: June 25, 2004Report This Post
 Previous Topic | Next Topic powered by eve community  

Read-Only Read-Only Topic

Home    Forums  Hop To Forum Categories  Torah Forums  Hop To Forums  Daf Yomi    Advanced: bitul b'rov bechoros 21B


Weekly Torah Updates
Enter your Email


Preview