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Being kind to window and orphans, would this also extend to women, whose husbands divorced them, since it was not by their provocation and they would be in a sense morning that loss, as if they had lost their husband and become widows?
 
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since it was not by their provocation


Is it not possible for a woman to either do something requiring a divorce, or her deciding that she wants her husband to give her a divorce, and even compelling the court to beat him into doing so against his will?

Should we consider either of those cases of divorced women just like a widow?
 
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perhaps i should have said, 'if not by her own provocation', rather than 'since, not by her own provocation'...
 
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In that case, where she was divorced against her will or provocation, she is not necessarily that much worse off than a never-been-married woman, since she can re-marry.

However a woman who's husband is unknown whether alive or dead, such as if kidnapped or captured by an enemy, she is probably worse off, since she cannot re-marry, and is likely in a state of mourning which cannot be consoled.

She has a hope that her husband is still alive and will return, she is not worse off than a widow in that way.


My sense of the initial quoted passuk is that orphans refers to young orphans who are dependent upon a guardian to provide food.

And that a widow refers to an elderly widow who is perhaps not so easy to re-marry and who may be physically frail due to aging.

A young divorced woman who is eligible to re-marry is likely not as needy as the other two inferences.

However if she was divorced or widowed with young children, I think we might consider her children as orphans?
 
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In that case, where she was divorced against her will or provocation, she is not necessarily that much worse off than a never-been-married woman, since she can re-marry.

However a woman who's husband is unknown whether alive or dead, such as if kidnapped or captured by an enemy, she is probably worse off, since she cannot re-marry, and is likely in a state of mourning which cannot be consoled.

She has a hope that her husband is still alive and will return, she is not worse off than a widow in that way.


My sense of the initial quoted passuk is that orphans refers to young orphans who are dependent upon a guardian to provide food.

And that a widow refers to an elderly widow who is perhaps not so easy to re-marry and who may be physically frail due to aging.

A young divorced woman who is eligible to re-marry is likely not as needy as the other two inferences.

However if she was divorced or widowed with young children, I think we might consider her children as orphans?


thanks rob...this is actually great information, as it says to me that a women who is divorced, not by her own provocation should not be treated as a widow, or as if someone had died, but should be encouraged to re-marry

the reason for my original question is that my cousin has recently divorced, not through her own provocation and i did not know how to approach the situation when i go to visit her...she had wanted children, but her husband kept putting it off, stating financial committments, then came to her and said that it was better for him to divorce her so she can have children to someone else...so he divorced her, even though she didn't want a divorce...guess it makes sense on paper, but she is devistated
 
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There is a general Mitzvah to be kind to everyone - "Love your neighbour as youself" etc.

So approach your cousin on that basis.
 
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