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what was the name of the rabbi who taught a kid all his life and the kid didnt pick up what he was taught untill one day he was able to remeber it and then his rebbe left and the student feared for him and when the rebbe reternd the student forgot what he learnd again, and then the rebbe started teaching him it again

i hope someone knows who im talking about pls answear if you know who it is im talking about ty
 
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You may be refering to Rav Preida who learned things patiently 400 times with a student, usually he got at at the 399'th time.

One day, it too 400, and Rav Preida asked him why, and it was because the student was preoccupied with worry that the rav was leaving and wouldn't stay for the 400.

So, Rav Preida started from the beginning and learned 400 more times, and the student got it at the 799'th time.

We think we most recently read this version in the children's book "I Love Torah" published by Feldheim, and I think the auther is Rabbi Greenwald.
 
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The story doesn't end there.

Here's a version I found online at this website: http://www.neveh.org/winston/parsha57/mishpat.html

Rebi Preida once had a student that had to be taught something 400 times before he could understand it. One day, the rebi was asked to do a mitzvah, and the student failed to learn the lesson. "Why is it different today than all other days?" he asked his talmid. "Because," he answered, "from the moment the master was asked to do the mitzvah, I was distracted, thinking to myself, 'Soon the master will have to get up ... Soon the master will have to get up ...'."

Rav Preida said, "If that is so, let me teach the lesson to you again." He then repeated the teaching another 400 times, and because of this, a heavenly voice called out to Rav Preida, "Which reward do you want? Either you can live a long life, or you and your generation can merit The World-to-Come?" He answered, "I request that I and my generation merit The World-to-Come." To this God responded, "Give him BOTH rewards!"
 
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Quote "You may be referring to Rav Preida who learned things patiently 400 times with a student, usually he got at the 399'th time."

Eiruvin 54b. Didn't he get it on the 400th time?


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Speaking of gematrias, didn't we learn that they are just as valid when off by one?
 
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Quote "Speaking of gematrias, didn't we learn that they are just as valid when off by one?"

Supposedly the Vilna Ga'on said that. But a friend of mine that is into Gematrios told me that he asked Rav Moshe Wolfson in this matter, and he doesn't recommend to do those unless someone knows what he's doing (whatever that might be)

I heard that The Steipler brings a proof to this from the Gemarah in Gittin 88a Kollel Iyun Hadf Paraphrases

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(i) Question (Rav Chisda): "Hash-m was diligent to

bring the evil upon us, for He is a Tzadik" - how is

this a reason?



(k) Answer #2 (Ula): Hash-m benefited us by not

allowing us to stay in the land for 852 years (the

numerical value of "You will grow old"), rather

exiling us 2 years before this, so we would not be

subject to the accompanying curse "You will perish"



So it would seem that 1 year wasn't good enough to not to be part of the Gematriah.


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