Hi, I have a question- If your Grandma is thought to have converted to Orthadox, and not born Jewish, but married in an Orthadox Shul, and brought up her children as Jewish, would the daughter of the Grandma's daughter (also brought up to be Jewish) be considered Jewish in the eyes of a Orthadox (& Sephardi) Rabbi? Thank you so much, mauch appreciated if you can help.

The answer's yes, but documentary evidence would need to be produced to prove the Jewishness of the granddaughter. I don't know whether it is is sufficeient to prove the grandmother's Jewishness by producing her Kesubah and evidence of marriage in an Orthodox Synagogue; her certificate of Geirus (conversion) may also be required (some Batei Din are particular about such things as not all conversions are accepted by every Beis Din).

The burden of proof may be higher if the granddaughter never conducted herself as a Jew.

i'm not qualified to give a direct answer to that one. But i'll point out some very important things.

1. your subject "please help me with your views". this is not so accurate. The only valid view is the law, implemented by the bet din. There shouldn't be any blurred areas regarding whether somebody is jewish or not.

2. sephardi or ashkenazi. There is 1 law. There are some different customs though.

3. Therei s no cause for anxiety. If the bet din judge her as not jewish and on that basis judge her daughter as not jewish, then maybe there is a possibility of the daughter converting to judaism.

4. You wisely only mentioned orthodox. Do not consider reform/conservative, they are a sham. Besides the fact that they make things up as they go along and claim to be judaism. Historians have foudn evidence that their founders originally held to a different anti-judaism theology - a jews for satan style cult - that believed in a righteous sinner,, and sinning for redemption. But that will be the subject of another thread!

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Historians have foudn evidence that their founders originally held to a different anti-judaism theology - a jews for satan style cult - that believed in a righteous sinner,, and sinning for redemption. But that will be the subject of another thread!

This is a pretty serious allegation - would you please explain this.

Either way, it is clear his allegation implies the right sort of stuff about a completely separate religion.

Brett

The implications of determining sombody not Jewish that has been brought up Jewish and is several generations removed from a conversion and subsequent orthodox marriage is very complicated. Although there are many Bais-Din, fine people and I am sure good at what they do, this shai'la really needs to be posed to Gadolei HaTorah that are familiar with the halachos and related meshorah of these issues. The director should be able to find sombody at Mir Yeshivah that know about this, or knows sombody that knows sombody that knows about this. Having personal experience with this I can tell you that it is more complicated than just learning yora deah. This requires Daas Torah. I have personally seen people overwhelmed by a well meaning psak halacha from a valid posek. But when it was explained to a Rebbe or Rosh Yeshiva that understood the Daas Torah it was able to be handled effectively and without damage.
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