Why have the Egyptian no mention of Jews, hebrews, or Israelites. Nothing on Moses, or the whole Exodus! Such a massive event and nothing?! Can someone explain how it doesnt dit into the history? Who was the pharoah etc?
If the Egyptians did record their military losses, why not the exodus?
Where are the secular historic proof of Abraham or Moses??
Apparently the first record of Judaism is in the time of King David, is that true?

(note: i do not mean to be attacking our faith, what i want though is to find answers, this does not mean that i dont believe in the torah, but am constantly asked these same question and have insufficient knowledge to answer them.)

Jessi,

There are secular records that mention the events of the Exodus. Most of them are summarized on Ron Wyatt's web pages (you can just google for them). As far as the reasons why there are no Egyptian records, it has to do with several issues. First, all the men of the Egyptian aristocracy were obliterated in the Red Sea, including the priesthood, who were people in charge of keeping records. That the pharaoh himself survived - at least long enough to drown in the Red Sea - suggests an important clue to who he was. I am not an expert on the Egyptian dynasties, but he obviously was NOT the first-born son of the Pharaoh. Some researchers think Tutankhamen was the first-born son of the Pharaoh, who was killed by the Tenth Plague. In Mesopotamia, some letters related to the period of 1300-1200 BCE suggest that the Queen of Egypt (the Pharaoh's widow) asked the King of the Chittites to send one of his sons to become her Prince-Consort.

The excavations on the cite of the city of Jericho suggest that the city did have unbreachable walls and that it did burn down to the ground right around the time (1300-1200 BCE).

The ancients, especially the Egyptians, did not have our concept of history. They did not record their failures. The only purpose of records was to glorify the pharoah. For example, the semitic conquest of Egypt for two hundred years is not mentioned. This semitic conquest explains how Yoseph reached such high positions of power and when the semitics were expelled, why there was such a sudden change in the attitude to the Hebrews.
Incidently, this sort of thing provides amusement but is not really serious from an academic viewpoint.

"The elite died at the yam soof so there was no left to record it." Now that is what I call original thinking.

Aryeh Shore

Also...remember the concept of "revisionist history" is not a new one. This is not the type of event that anyone in Egypt would want to glorify, much less record at all. We are told they did not have much need to remember things not in their best interest...remember Shemot 1:8 "And there arose up a new king over Egypt, who knew not Joseph." They couldn;t even remember something good we did for them, much less our kicking their butts! :-)

If you look at grade school history textbooks in the UK, you will not find much discussion of that little revolt in the colonies in the Americas that we learn about in this country year after year for months on end.

Robby